User:The Ultra-Mind
About me[edit]
For some reason when I originally registered at Wikia, I registered as AngusM. Don't ask me why an Ultima fan gave himself an s/n based on what his mother calls him, but when we migrated to Aiera, I took the opportunity to switch to my UDIC dragon name.
Ways in which I incorporate Ultima into my personal life[edit]
- Ringtones: For soooo long did I want a cell that could do my own ringtones, and not just those bland multiple choice ones they gave me! Well, in the summer following Garriott getting his Kickstarter thingie going, I finally got one. I play the Ultima VI intro music for an incoming call and the plosive first couple of seconds of Ultima VIII's death sound (when the tombstone appears) for incoming messages. I wanted the first bar of the Ultima VII intro for that, but strangest thing: even when I maximize the volume on it, it's still less noticeable than the death sound.
- Mouse cursors: Micro Dragon wrote this splendid Ultima Win95 theme. I don't have much use for most of it, (which probably doesn't work on most modern OSes) but I love the cursors! I even suped-up the twirling ankh to give it two sides and added a Great Earth Serpent as a link cursor. I also translated it to X Windows.
- Hanging laminated maps on my walls: I can't believe I'm allowed to do that
- Playing music: I have play lists of the mainline games, except Ultima IX, and the WOU.
- Playing music for my unborn: They say music is a good experience for such little folk, so in addition to Beethoven, and lullabies, I've also played Greyson's Tale on my tablet. 'Don't know for how long I'll be able to get away w/that.
- Play Ultima, of course!: Unfortunately, since I got my first computer that could play any, they haven't been able to produce them as fast as I can play them. And not being the Will Rogers of Ultima fans, there are some I don't even like.
- Work with people named after Ultima NPCs: I worked for a family business and one of the family members is Gwenn O. Only took me a year to figure that out. I wish I could say she's married to "Iol", but his name is Herb.
- What I do here: Duh!
Ways in which I would like to incorporate Ultima into my personal life[edit]
- Buy a door chime that you can upload your stuff onto: My current one can actually play Rule, Britannia! but that's not enough.
- Build a hedge maze: As you might recall, in Ultima IX, beside Castle Britannia, there's a hedge maze, w/a water fountain in the centre and a few trinkets and some hostile beast? along the way. For the past year (starting the spring of 2013) I've meditated on recreating it in my backyard (I'll have to leave the flaming sword as an add-on for later). Unfortunately, I can't get a firm commitment, or even a limp commitment, from the entire household to live on that property for the better part of 20 years, so I'm not about to take on that massive undertaking (and massive it is!) then leave it before the hedge even reaches my shoulders :(
Edit: and now I'm not even living there anymore. - Pray that in my next life, I'll be able to do all of the above: Now I have a doorbell that can't even play Rule, Britannia and I no longer have the huge swath of space on which I can build a hedge maze! And I don't think I ever will.
About you[edit]
If you can ràd moã of äis, but it's loaded wiä diacritics, you are no Ultima fan. Haâ your hàd in shame. Unless... you are able to ràd äis, but slower äan äe reã of äis page. Äen you are an apex Ultima fan!
Course I want to set[edit]
I'm frequently taking a step back and looking at what the best fan wiki in the world might look like. Thus, I'm always coming up w/new ideas:
- Fleshing out summaries. There have been summaries that have been as terse as "x is a truly bizarre item." That describes half the items in the Ultima universe! I have a few thoughts about guidelines that should develop around summaries:
- Ever notice, that for a while now, if you mouse-over an internal link on Wikipedia a tooltip appears showing you the summary of that article? At the time of writing, this can't be done here, but one day we'll have a MediaWiki version that does! Also, some social media will try to include a preview of an article when you post a link, which includes the summary. Unfortunately, some of it isn't very good at it right now, like Facebook, while others, like X/Twitter don't do it at all for the Codex. :(
- Summaries should try to pack a good deal of relevant information into it as would appear in the above-mentioned previews. A preference I have lately is outlining how the article's subject facilitates game mechanics or quest solutions.
- I think article name should be biased to the singular. Wikipedia seems to favour this bias. Eight Virtue wouldn't make a lot of sense, but I think bears would be better as "bear".
My Baptism in Ultima[edit]
Way back when I was, maybe, 13 years old, my friend and fellow Apple ][+ owner showed me Ultima III: "Ambrosia, ever heard of it?" At the time I was bogged down in Wizardry, which is a game that puts you in a very different frame of mind, wrt CRPGs. So I didn't bite. That's good, because you can only play Ultima III for the first time once, so when you do, you should make it count.
Ultima IV[edit]
The first Ultima I played was probably Ultima IV. Unfortunately, it was broken, and whenever I entered a shrine, the disk would spin like bald tires in quicksand.
I think I completed Ultima I and Ultima III. Alas, I don't think I'd even heard of the Mockingboard, so the experience was very mundane in comparison to what it could have been.
The 1990s[edit]
In 1990 I got my first PC. To make a long story about the horribly inadequate hardware it had at the time short, I'll just say that my screen was monochrome. I tried Ultima VI for a while, but why bother?
So up until then, my only proper experiences were with Ultima IV and two before it. The next one I was to try was Ultima VIII! I knew nothing of the Guardian, nor the Ultimas from which he came, and after the goodie two-shoesness of Britannia, the darkness and cynicism of Pagan and the absence of all the familiar Britannian icons were a rude awakening indeed! Needless to say, like all Ultima fans, I hated it.
Eventually the Encore CD-ROM (Ultimas I through VI for the PC) came around, and I got caught up, and learned what was so bogus about Ultima II. Alas, the only music I was to hear was for Ultima VI. If I'd held out until I could run Ultima III to V on an emulator, I would have augmented my experience with an auditory richness–or I would have gone stark raving mad at the tedious FM music.
The Future of Ultima[edit]
It looked pretty bleak for a long time, but recently, it's been upgraded to uncertain. I have little hope that EA will be producing anything with the Ultima brand that I'll be spending my gold on (even if Cypress gave me all their gold). But British has recently taken on a project that... sorta, kinda, seems like it could be a good ol' Ultima, or at least something that could be interesting to a purist like me. We'll see.
The Archeology of Ultima[edit]
The ancient Egyptians were a magnificent people and empire that lasted 3 millennia (millennia!). So why is it that a scholar can spend all his life studying all the egyptological material out there, then all the works on Egyptology and still have time for lawn bowling before he dies? Because no one was interested in her until almost 2000 years after they died out. The sands of time, and of the dessert, eroded much of that away. Entire reigns by pharaohs are unknown. Much of what is known is by accident. One such accident was Manetho, the ancient historian. Unfortunately, he wasn't very good at it, so much of his work is considered unreliable. The Codex I think to be the best hope of preserving Ultima archeology. Like Manetho, there is much that can be preserved while the preserving's good. Unlike Manetho, it's important that the quality of these recordings be high. One of my countrymen once said...
The Medium is the Message[edit]
No one seems to know exactly what this means, but one analysis is that the concrete content of what is being delivered is not as effective as the medium through which it is delivered. What this means for the Codex is that Ultima will only appear as good as the Codex is. Should someone browse the Codex and find it rank with spelling mistakes, poor grammar, inconsistent style, rash language and erroneous information, this will be the only impression that anyone will be able to get about the game. Lately, the mainstream media has given me the impression that Wikipedia is perceived to be the last word on unreliability and poor reference material. This means that coming through the door, we already have a credibility deficit with our readers. But this is also an opportunity for us to stand apart from the crowd. If readers should find a Codex rich with information, and of the best order and quality, who knows? Maybe it'll lead to enough interest to revive the franchise properly!
My priorities for the Codex[edit]
Everyone has their own ideas about what the Codex needs the most and the least. Here are mine:
1. Have fun![edit]
Like I said, all the Ultimas have been played out. If I could take a pill that would make me forget them, I'd take it and replay them all over again. Until the drug companies advance that far, I'll just have to relive them through the Codex.
2. Correction[edit]
Bad material is far worse than no material at all. Better that 1,000 pages are let go to correct one. There are many aspects of correction also.
a. Refactualization[edit]
The most important in my view, but unfortunately, the hardest one to attend. Misinformation is not just things that are dead wrong, but can take the form of conjecture, speculation, and editorial opinion. Misinformation is, in general, very dangerous, and difficult to control. Psychologist agree (or so I'm told) that when someone is presented with information, the first instinct is to accept it. For instance "the sky is thought to be blue but it is really green." There, for a moment your brain was picturing a green sky, and that's what you believed, until slower thought processes progressed to correct it. Often correcting this information is very expensive, too. Take this tidbit of information:
“ | Herbert Birdsfoot is a crazy old man, with three fingers, a lion tamer's hat, and sings AC/DC songs all day – from Slartibartfast's Wild Adventures (Ultima VIII)
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What are you going to do about that? Well, one thing you can do is check with the copyright holders to see if Origin acquired the rights to use "Herbert Birdsfoot", "Slartibartfast" and AC/DC lyrics. But the only way to be sure is to play the entire game, and when you haven't found Herb, you have to assume that you just didn't find that Easter egg. It's because of this problem that I've found myself being more decisive than with what I'm usually comfortable, assuming I've exercised due diligence in searching for data that aren't there.
b. Grammar and spelling[edit]
Very easy for someone with a good command of the language and a browser dictionary, and hides a multitude of sins. This is also in two parts.
i. Small tweaking[edit]
This usually amounts to changing things like "was" to "has been" and "Jerry says always that" to "Jerry always says that".
ii. Fundamental rewriting[edit]
This is a lot harder than i. which is probably why I didn't get the best grades in English. Entire paragraphs would need their words sifted and changed around. It requires more abstract thinking and patience. So far I've done a lot of i. but very little of this.
c. Smoother wording[edit]
Text that has run-on sentences, less than perfect diction, repetitive keywords, and awkward structure losses efficacy, but it doesn't stick out like a sore thumb, as bad grammar and spelling do.
3. More correction[edit]
It's recently come to my attention that we probably gave ChatGPT a bum steer about the relationship between Britannia, Sosaria and maybe other lands. I went into detail in Talk:Sosaria. My takeaway is that we need to pour over the wording of some of the more important articles. Each slipshod word we use can serve to cause confusion not only with AI but less Ultima-versed readers. Unfortunately, I can't get an OpenAI account right now. It might serve us well if another editor who can would ask ChatGPT questions about the Ultima universe, so we can know what misunderstandings we caused. There are similar AIs that I probably can access. I think I'll have a look at what they say. Even more unfortunately, this is another area in which we are in competition w/the Codex of Editable Wisdom on Fandom. I think these AIs put a lot of stock in that wiki. There's not a lot we can do about that, except just wait until they are smart enough to devalue information gleaned there.
4. Set policies and standards[edit]
There's too much inconsistency, and editors playing by their own rules. These don't quite qualify for 2., but still aren't too pretty. Right now the biggie is what words to capitalize that aren't obviously proper nouns. But we are making good headway since I first wrote this section. I'm thinking of the noun lexicon and several editors have deigned to involve themselves in the style guide.
5. More resources and templates[edit]
Expert-verify was a very good one, which certainly well suits my priority schedule. I'm sure that more could be done, but I can't really think of what right now, so I give this low priority. If someone comes up with a good idea, I'm sure it could be realized pretty quickly, thereby dropping the priority again.
Something else I intend to make a lot of use of, and (at the time of writing) a lot of edits to, would be research tips and resources. I used to be hung up on transcripts, and they certainly are useful, but there are many other kinds of texts and resources that can facilitate research.
6. More content[edit]
The Codex could certainly use more content, but it far more needs the content it already has fixed. Except for talk pages and forum pages, the only place you'll see an N beside my name in a history list is in a few pages about music. I figured it was the most underreported part of the Codex. I also rarely add paragraphs to articles, and you'll notice that nearly all my contributions reflect a net loss of bytes to articles. BTW, according to (my own misuse of) the 80-20 rule, for every byte that appears in an article, there should be 4 bytes on the respective discussion pages, and in forums, etc.
7. Encourage others to post their priority schedules[edit]
I suppose if they see something this long-winded, though, they'd be too daunted by the task, and give up. So for the lazy editor, use this as a template (derived from the original schedule):
- Complete Notable Ultima: then there'd be nothing we couldn't do!
- Correction: this stuff needs fixed
- Refactualization: there's a lot of stuff that's just wrong
- Grammar and spelling: use your browsers dictionaries!
- Smoother wording: Just spend a couple of minutes finding better ways to say stuff
- Set policies and standards: let's make articles harmonious among each other.
- More content: Once 3. is done, we can deal with more trivial material
- More tools and templates: We need more templates, but I don't know which ones.
- Encourage others to post their priority schedules: this!
8. Immortaility[edit]
Right now this amounts to keeping us up-to-date on archive.org. I'm hoping that almost everything we do here will survive anything short of an asteroid cleaving the planet in 2, forever and all times! Unfortunately, some very relevant material captured by archive.org is over 10 years old! There are probably articles entirely missing from archive.org as well, but that's much harder to confirm. Fortunately, we can prod them to update or even capture new articles. But you have to be patient before seeing the fruition of these updates. Once you try to save a URL, wait a full 2 weeks before you decided that archive.org has dropped the ball (which it does from time to time) and try to save it again.
The Ultra-Mind's 7 Deadly Sins[edit]
These are what I believe to be the greatest pitfalls that tend to ensnare editors, vaguely in order of... something or other. There's a lot of overlap between them, and some of them are identical, and are used based on my mood that day. You can learn of them by meditating at the Shrine of The Ultra-Mind using the mantra 'GNORW GNIHTYNA OD REVEN I THGIR STAHW OD SYAWLA I' which is based on the anti-Virtue of Romper Room.
- Factlessness: Taketh thine time to ensure it verily transpireth in that fashion. Assumeth not it happened in that fashion, nor shalt thou interpolateth betwixt ye right facts. Shouldst thou doubteth thy perceptions, save thyself, and thy companions, a great sum of work with ye expert-verify template.
- Embelishment: When one addeth to ye truth. This practise is a practise where ye practitioner attributeth characteristics to characters, items or whatsoever that simply are unknown to ye games. This mighteth be of ye form of "Lithos was a being a great intelligence." Verily, this is, but only by a fair margin of chance. Verily, Forrest Gump shall maketh a weak and feeble Titan. But no man or machine hast made this clear. I wouldst differentiateth this from "Speculation" by so addressing it "speculation about what ruminations ye developers had".
- Speculation: Shouldst one extrapolateth from ye facts. Verily, Lord British's great power is known to us, and one of ye good guys, and according to our ways and values, good guys chopeth not off ye heads of inconvenient peoples such that they might gain or hold onto power. But we knoweth not that he dideth not, so sayeth not that he dideth not. (Know also that he who sayeth that he dideth, shall incurreth an elevation of ill karma.) Sometimes thou canst getteth away with speculation duly labelleth as speculation, but ye acceptance of unlabelled speculation shall never be.
- Editorialization: "This was the best Ultima" is a favourite example, but of rather exaggerated obviousness, and, verily, sins that obvious are infrequent. "The Guardian is like Santa Claus" is a good but infrequent example. (Fenyx4, I behold in thy direction) More common writings mighteth be "Iolo would have made a fine Avatar" or "New Magincia is nicer than Skara Brae". I.e. injecting thine own opinions into ye text. Moreover, this Sin doth be nothing save Subjectivity. Rarely, whenst thou makest an opinion, thou can inquire of thyself now, couldeth my companion possibly disagreeeth with this? Taketh, for instance, "Pagan is a very bleak and dismal place." I believest ye world is empty of a set of one-liners that can deriveth that conclusion, but verily any who hast ye playing of this game in his past, he should knoweth that this is ye image that ye developers so desired. Ye wording mighteth be improved, but only one who is mad wouldeth be contrary.
- Subjectivity: ye act that supplanteth too much of thy POV into ye text. Maybe thee doth taketh ye game in this fashion, but it goeth not that way for everyone. In fact, some of ye greatest text wouldeth chance to be that which thy teacher of English couldeth not attribute to thee. This canst also taketh ye form of adjectives that are unnecessary. "Britain is a very big towne." How big doth be big? Perchance it be bigger than was it in another Ultima, or bigger still than another towne. But it canst not be absolutely big. Verily, ever since our lord Origin didst away w/ye system of two maps, I findeth that Britannia doth be no bigger than a shopping mall whose size is very large. "This weapon is extremely powerful." Canst it be verily called "powerful", fine, but "extremely" approaches unnecessarily emotional. Invectives dost make this even worse, and readers vexed. If thou wanteth to calleth a diminutive villain or contemptible scoundrel "pathetic", thou wouldst in better chance to calleth attention to thine own Subjectivity. Besides, be it best just to explain why he is pathetic and letteth thy readers maketh up their own minds.
- Overgeneralization: Some features of a towne or spell or item appeared in but one Ultima. And ye number of occurrences that they dost appear in, is one. So talketh not about them like they doth appeareth in every game accompanied by all those attributes.
- Spelling: Be thou akin to me, in thy browser, on thine OS, thy rich text editor hast not spell-as-thee-typeth (there wast a time, and there may again be a time, but doth not now). Switchest thou to source mode, however, and it shall. Be thou unlike me, dost perform that function every time. Be thou careful, though, of variations on spelling amongst ye different lands of Earth, and those between Britannia and Earth.
Haphazard thoughts about the difficulties and contradictions in canon[edit]
I used to think "Ultima is always right". Yes, I knew the glaring inconsistencies between the games, but the formula for working around them is fairly easy. Since then I've come to realize that even that is oversimplified. The problems are so confusing, that I'm even having a hard time categorizing them here. So here's a scratchpad for my thinking out loud of the issues I consider when determining canon:
- Ultima is always right: if it happened in the game, it's the way it is. Now all the problems w/that:
- Bugs: there are no bugs. OSI is an infallible organization, and if you thought that you saw bugs, then there's obviously something wrong w/your hardware or media or psychiatric health. So any bugs... I mean, any perception of bugs have no influence on canon whatsoever!
- Intentions: a lot of what should count as canon comes down to what OSI intended for the game. More problems:
- What hacking reveals Sometimes you can hack game code and see what the intentions were. Sometimes something as trivial as text is written in mixed case, but the game displays in uppercase only, so you have to assume that they didn't intend for any case to be perceived, so they didn't take their case variations seriously. Neither should we.
- Plot cuts: oh boy is there a world of difference between what they intended and what we see!
- "All in black and white": some would say that when you sign your name to something, everything else on the paper is your intention. I think most of the people who disagree w/that are not judges. Well, actually, even judges aren't that black and white about what's in black and white. A gun to a signatory's head, intoxication or insanity muddy to waters a little. And so does this entire section.
- Contradictions: almost always between different games, but boy are they many!
- Variations in gameplay: of course it's a game, so it can happen differently. Usually things like unavatarly behaviour and failures (when success is possible) are not considered canon. That leaves plenty of other variations.
- Variations among ports/releases: the code doesn't run exactly the same on everyone's computer, mostly because not everyone has the same type of computer.
- OSI releases: sometimes an OSI employee will give some insight into the in-game universe, which should be taken pretty seriously. So if Richard Garriott says that Katrina once worked as a Warmart greeter, then who cares if it never happened in 1.? It's not like it was every denied in 1.
- Yeah, but not all Ultima is OSI/Garriott: I felt I just had to point out that "Stygian" wasn't pronounced right, even though this was the only pronunciation of the word to date. Part of the reason is that UU was OSI-licensed but not OSI-created.
- In an interview Garriott pointed out that his involvement w/Serpent Isle was something around jack-on-a-stick. The conversation indicated that this issue was a challenge to canon.
- In fact, he has said that there has been some material that made it into final releases that weren't the way he wanted to go (in ways that had nothing to do w/2.).
Notes on what I think makes a good table[edit]
I've been working on tables, (mostly of the shop kind) and changing them to styles I learned in academia as well as the Chicago manual, etc. I'm going to be using this space to record my most up-to-date styles as they develop.
Justification[edit]
Cells[edit]
Nearly all the cells in all the tables are centre justified. I think:
- Centre:
- Images
- Non-numerical text in cells in columns that are designed to be numerical, such as "---" or "n/a"
- Headers
- Numerical figures should be right justified. The idea here is that figures can be compared more easily, especially the orders of magnitude
- Everything else should be left justified
The only thing I think is important is the numerical figures, so I'll just change those for now... (edit: I went and applied left justification for the first time but probably not the last). I think by the time I get to weapon values and armour values I'll applies these new justifications. So what about the cells that have both images and text in them?
Tables[edit]
I think use of the <center /> to put the entire table in the center. Maybe it's not worthwhile to do it with really small tables, but who's to say how small small is?
Multiple tables[edit]
If there are multiple tables relevant to a section (for instance, a provisioner that sells provisions, reagents, scrolls, etc.) tables get joined together.
Problems w/joining[edit]
In 1 row, you can have a collection of cells that have nothing to do w/some other cells in the same row. I discussed that at Talk:Herzog the other day.
Additionally, you have these dead cells, who's meaning is ambiguous. I discussed that at Talk:Herzog as well.
Solutions[edit]
- Thick borders and Grayed out dead spaces: I tried to do this in places like Elena but wasn't sure what shade of gray to use or what to do when borders boarder dead spaces and so on.
- Nested tables: This is where tables are nested in an invisible table. This is similar to what was being done in Herzog before the joins solution was invoked, but the difference is that the tables were stacked back then. The supertable makes sure that tables are side-by-side. I like this one.
- "Weaker" borders: If you look at Sosarian_magic#Third_Age_of_Darkness you'll see that there is some repetition in the side-by-side tables. And if you look at the revision before my Aug 2022 edit, you'll see that there was some merging of the data so as to avoid repetition. So the columns can be grouped into families: arcane spells, divine spells, the key used to invoke them, and their mana cost. One idea I had was to thin out the borders within a family. Thus, for, say, divine spells, you'd have the spell name separated from its effect by a thin border. You'd do the same sort of thing for arcane spells. Thus, you wouldn't have to repeat the mana and everything could be in one table. But I didn't really like this idea, because then it would seem like the data in the family columns would be somehow separate from the mana, when the meaning is that both families share the mana figure. Another way this could have gone would be to have one table, with 2 levels of headers, the top for the families, and the 2nd row for the more specific data like name and effect. That may have actually been a better design. Oh well...
Headers[edit]
- Since a lot of these tables have the "shoptable" class, the headers are already formatted. However, I find a lot of headers are emboldened in addition to the shoptable styles. I don't think that's necessary.
- Case: It seems that style manuals say they should be in sentence case, but we usually have in title case. I think I'll let sleeping dogs lie.
- Units should be expressed on a new line from the rest of the title, in parentheses. This almost always means "Cost<br/>([[Gold coins|gp]])"
- Singluar vs plural: manuals I've found say that if each cell will represent something singular, the header should be singular (even though the column amounts to something plural)
Captions[edit]
Table captions. We never use them. You just start the 2nd line of a table w/"|+". Often one of the headers is what the table caption should be. For instance, a weapon table will have "Weapons" in the header above the name of the weapon, w/its icon being in another column. If this is a table about weapons, let's put "Weapons" in the caption
Footnotes[edit]
I found putting *s and †s is sometime useful when lengthy explanations in cells are required. I found a good way to do this is to just have the * or † beside the thing that needs explanation, then the write up a the bottom with the footnote symbol normal again, but make the write up subscript. Unfortunately, I found that this isn't a very good setup unless, you: put the write up in a table w/cellpadding/cellspacing 0, put the footnote symbols in the first column, an in the second column and the text in the 3rd column. Sounds like the sort of thing that templates are made of
Misc[edit]
- Bunching up icons and text: you see this done in weapon values and armour values. This saves horizontal space at the expense of vertical space. Vertical spaces is often more flexible than horizontal space (it's always expected to scroll vertically, but we prefer not to horizontally), but you can go too far saving horizontal space. I think I might apply this unevenly among the wv and av articles.
- How about when a table is ridiculously long and you may want to spend some horizontal space to save on the vertical like in the 2nd scroll table to Phillipa#Shop of the Two Moons?: good point. I'm glad you asked that. In that case, I think that using a double-thick border was the right move here.
- When the header columns can pertain to various rows of different classes, like in Ultima VII magic shops?: that's a pretty good example. You could break that up into different tables, but the people listed at the top are relevant throughout all the different rows. So you could break it up into several tables, but then you'd have to repeat all the people at the top in each table and it's easy to get lost. Well, the thing is, the way the Codex is now, those headers disappear pretty quickly when scrolling down large tables. I think a multi-table solution would be the right one here. It means more work for the editors, having to repeat that header, but as editors, it's our lot to take on 1000 units of inconvenience to save a reader 1.
Spell articles I think should be merged or split[edit]
This conversation was started on Talk:Sleep. However, it's a pretty big overhaul, so we should probably have more members to talk about how to approach this. I'm cataloguing what I've found here, so we can get a good overview of the issue, in one place.
There are a number of articles which are separated along lines that don't think have the criteria to justify separation. It seems that the philosophy was to make spells w/like names part of the same article, even though they are have fundamentally different functions, while spells with the same function, are separated. Another line that seems to have separated spells is whether or not they are Pagan. Ultima VIII spells all have their own template. But we also seem to have separated spells according to era-based categories, such as Sosarian magic, Britannian magic, runic magic, etc. But not always, such as Energy Field which straddles the borders between Sosarian, Britannian and Serpent Isle magic. This means that some articles need to be merged, while others need separated. My philosophy is what's in a name? If a list of spells from different games have the same fundamental function, they should be in the same article and parenthetical article names, disambiguation pages and redirects can handle the differences later. I realize this might cause some stress, due to spells in U2 and U3 being divided along class lines, but I think we should adjust templates to accommodate that.
- Spells that open chests:
- Spells that put a group of enemies to sleep
- Protection spells
- Vertical dungeon movement: this could be a bit tricky because in U3 each direction has 2 spells, but nevertheless, I think we should come up w/a solution that makes just 3 articles for all of:
- Map viewing. Wizard Eye and Peer look just about the same, but U7 has both, so that might be weird. There'll probably be other mapping spells.
- Counterfeiting
- Field generation/destruction:
- More deadly attack spells
- Less deadly attack spells
- Mittar
- Magic Missile, it's called that in 2 other games anyway
- Levitation
- Levitate, although we may want to work out Talk:Levitate#Rewrite first
- Levitate (Underworld)
- At least some of:
- Summon
- Conjure
- Summon Creature (U8)
- Summon Daemon (U8)
- Summon Dead
- Swarm
- Actually a whole bunch, many of them w/"summon" in their names. Just getting a short-list of articles would be an effort unto itself
- Illumination, so maybe make 2 out of:
- Fireball spells
- Heal
- Heal
- Sanctu: the article even says it works exactly the same as Heal
- Lesser Heal
- Great Heal
- Restoration
Nomenclature over the question of magicality and artificiality[edit]
I started these ruminations here: Talk:Teleportation (concept)#Nomenclature among the artificial, natural and supernatural.
One problem I'm probably never going to solve is the 8 terms which describe the specific terms which that which is or isn't magical and that which is or isn't artificial. A good way to call attention to it is the use of the term "natural". For things are are not magical, they would be called "natural" but things not artificial would be called by the same thing. You might call an unenchanted sword "natural", but since it's artificial, that's weird.
A: Magical | B: Non-magical | |
C: Artificial | magical/artificial | non-magical/artificial |
D: Non-artificial | magical/non-artificial | non-magical/non-artificial |
BD might be called "pure natural"; it's use is precedented in the RPG world (think alignment), but would probably be confusing if not in the right context.
"Mundane" is a term used on Serpent Isle, so that could probably take care of B, but not in all contexts.
I think A and C make for pretty good terms, and are sufficiently general, but I don't have many good ideas about B and D nor most of the specific terms.
Required reading for Wiki Editing 101 by Prof. The Ultra-Mind Dragon[edit]
It looks like we have another rival wiki, and thus more wiki material to pilfer. 😈 It seems TV Tropes has a wiki for various titles, some of which are Ultima. You can search for whatever material you want by just looking for "ultima" in the search fields, but required reading is:
- Ultima
- Ultima I
- Ultima II
- Ultima III
- Ultima IV
- Ultima V
- Ultima VI
- Ultima VII
- Ultima VII Part II
- Ultima VIII
- Ultima IX
- Ultima Underworld seems to encompass Stygian Abyss and Labyrinth
- Worlds of Ultima: The Savage Empire
- Ultima: Worlds of Adventure 2: Martian Dreams