User talk:WilliamLC

Welcome to Ultima Codex! We hope you will contribute much and well. You will probably want to read the help pages. Again, welcome and have fun! -- Fenyx4 05:59, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

I was curious about something. Could one of you guys that still has a Wikia account on your old Wikia wiki please give me admin and bureaucrat rights over there. My username is WIlliamLazycat. Thanks WilliamLC (talk) 05:45, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

What plans do you have for it? When our community moved away from Wikia we sorta hoped the Ultima Wikia would fade into obscurity someday. Although I occasionally check it to be sure it hasn't become inundated with spam or vandalism. -- Fenyx4 22:47, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

I want to update the theme and logo for it. It needs updating and the new Fluid layout fudged up the background. I would also like to ask if you guys could give me either a data dump of your content regarding Lord of Ultima or would be willing to send someone to port over the content to the LoU Wikia wiki. I'd really appreciate it. Your content is much more, recent. I have had to deal with the crap that came from the old Libraries of Caledonia wiki. William (Talk), Bureaucrat of the Lord of Ultima Wiki on Wikia 05:59, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Part of the reason we left Wikia was because their layout pooched ours. We'd rather not give the dinosaur that is Wikia's Codex any new life. However, we don't have any problem w/the content. If someone wanted to put LoU content somewhere, why not here? The Ultra-Mind (talk) 15:18, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Indeed. A couple of points to elaborate:

• It's fair to say the Wikia Codex is vastly outdated. The entire community responsible for its creation and maintenance moved here more than three years ago, and have continued on with extensive rewrites, refinements, and new content ever since. Other than sporadic minor edits by mostly anonymous contributors, there has been no such activity at Wikia throughout that period; 99% of it is unchanged from where we were at in 2010.
• Please be well aware of the implications of being hosted by Wikia. As we ourselves learned, the moment you click "Publish," you surrender ultimate control of your content to them. Make no mistake, Wikia is a for-profit company fuelled by advertising revenue gathered off the back of your work, and consequently has it in their interest to hold onto any content you give them for as long as they exist. We would have preferred not to leave an abandoned, outdated, and redundant wiki in our wake, but even with our whole community leaving, Wikia would not budge.

Food for thought. --Terilem (talk) 02:27, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

I happen to like Wikia myself, but I am not impartial to self-run wiki's. Things like hosting on your own domain, using your own layout, owning your own content, etc. can be and are really great. Its just not something I can afford/EA will give us and certainly not something the LoU community is any closer to adopting than the Wikia wiki. They still cling to and even have a crap version a player set up on 0000webhost of the Great Libraries of Caledonia, that is/was outdated, vandalized, and absolute crap. I still don't know why EA decided to drop the one they hosted. William (Talk), Bureaucrat of the Lord of Ultima Wiki on Wikia 04:32, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Allrighty, I've given you admin and bureaucrat rights. Please treat her kindly and keep in mind that the content there is all an old branch which the community that created it would rather see removed so as not to split our own community as it sounds like your community has been split.

If your community ever does find Wikia being more trouble than it is worth I can lend you a hand in the move.

In respect to the LoU content on here I believe Browncoat Jayson was the one that did most of it. You may want to talk to him directly about copying it. -- Fenyx4 15:15, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

When you say split, do you mean like what happened to the Zelda community, Zelda.Wikia VS. ZeldaWiki.org? William (Talk), Bureaucrat of the Lord of Ultima Wiki on Wikia 02:11, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Lord of Ultima

Per your message, I do not play Lord of Ultima currently. I'm not sure why you are setting up a separate wiki for a game that is being discontinued in a month, but I don't think I'll be a lot of help. Everything that is on this wiki was what I put together on my own, based on the original Libraries of Caledonia and my own experiences in the game. I'm sure the mirror of the original is still available, or you can use the Wayback Machine to recover it. --Browncoat Jayson (talk) 21:21, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Just to immortalize the great game I gave up so much of my life for. I also hope to have more influence than what I am getting on wikia. William (Talk), Bureaucrat of the Lord of Ultima Wiki on Wikia 04:16, 25 April 2014 (UTC)