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Nothing against the editor who invested his time to do the references, but I have doubts, when the references take more space than the article text itself. Also -at least for me- the disturbance created in the text by the reference numbers (mainly the lines getting set further apart) is distracting.--Tribun 10:39, 21 January 2011 (PST)
- I agree with Tribun. References are important, but I think no more than one or two would be necessary in an article like this. Dungy 16:45, 21 January 2011 (PST)
- The problem is that we need a way to certify the text we write--I think, badly--and if we reduce the number of references to 2, there will be material that can't be trusted. Now if there's a better way to do this, great, but whenever I try to think of a way to justify texts, I keep coming back to the most obvious answer which is citing references.
- As for the uneven line spacing, it always amazes me when professional typesetting software does that to a line w/superscript in it. Maybe there's a css setting that can fix this, but if not, the only way we can get around it is by banning all use of anything that would provoke a superscript, anywhere but the first line of a paragraph.
- But that doesn't mean there's no room for improvement. Perhaps just because a template has a field doesn't mean it has to be used. I guess it was unnecessarily formal to say that each reference about an obscure U6 character comes from U6. In fact, I have a few other ideas to abbreviate references. I think I'll bring this up for the guide. The Ultra-Mind 19:50, 21 January 2011 (PST)
- If people are taking issue with the number of references in a passage, would it perhaps be an idea to group multiple keywords into the same reference? Alternatively, I've noticed elsewhere the method of putting two or three references all at the end of a line rather than peppered throughout a sentence. I'm personally not bothered by all this, but it could be a compromise if needs be. --Terilem 00:31, 22 January 2011 (PST)
- Do we really need individual keyword notation? It should be enough to note the entire paragraph as coming from U6 sourcecode. To me, its not that there are too many references, it is that there are multiple references to the same source. Browncoat Jayson 13:24, 24 January 2011 (PST)
- Exactly. One reference to point out that this comes from the U6 sourcecode should be sufficient. Dungy 14:34, 24 January 2011 (PST)
- What happens when edits are made after the references are put? It's likely that the only information that can be had about this character comes from his dialogue. So if someone starts putting in unsourced material it will appear to have a seal of approval, under one all-encompassing reference. It wouldn't be so bad if references were bunched together at the end of sentences, as Terilem suggested, but we'd want gaping holes in the citations if unsourced material was inserted. The Ultra-Mind 20:50, 24 January 2011 (PST)
- I prefer the style used in Gwenno, where multiple sentences are linked to the same source, with multiple keywords listed in that source. That seems to be a compromise; each sentence will have a source listed, but only one will appear at the bottom of the article. Browncoat Jayson
- Yes, the Gwenno method seems to be a pretty good one. It seems to have the best of both worlds, in that we can still certify (nearly) all the material and also cut down on the clutter. I think we should do it this way. The Ultra-Mind 21:02, 4 February 2011 (PST)
- Sega's come up w/a slight refinement on Gwenno (or possibly in the archive at a later date). The Ultra-Mind 16:10, 2 March 2011 (PST)
- Yes, the Gwenno method seems to be a pretty good one. It seems to have the best of both worlds, in that we can still certify (nearly) all the material and also cut down on the clutter. I think we should do it this way. The Ultra-Mind 21:02, 4 February 2011 (PST)
- I prefer the style used in Gwenno, where multiple sentences are linked to the same source, with multiple keywords listed in that source. That seems to be a compromise; each sentence will have a source listed, but only one will appear at the bottom of the article. Browncoat Jayson
- What happens when edits are made after the references are put? It's likely that the only information that can be had about this character comes from his dialogue. So if someone starts putting in unsourced material it will appear to have a seal of approval, under one all-encompassing reference. It wouldn't be so bad if references were bunched together at the end of sentences, as Terilem suggested, but we'd want gaping holes in the citations if unsourced material was inserted. The Ultra-Mind 20:50, 24 January 2011 (PST)
- Exactly. One reference to point out that this comes from the U6 sourcecode should be sufficient. Dungy 14:34, 24 January 2011 (PST)
- Do we really need individual keyword notation? It should be enough to note the entire paragraph as coming from U6 sourcecode. To me, its not that there are too many references, it is that there are multiple references to the same source. Browncoat Jayson 13:24, 24 January 2011 (PST)