Talk:Charisma

Ultima I Formula

My notes:

long __cdecl16near FUN_1000_680c(int param_1)
{
  undefined2 unaff_DS;
  
  return (long)(*(int *)0x3a96 / 4) * (long)param_1;
}
// (Charisma / 4)


int __cdecl16near FUN_1000_63d4(int param_1)
{
  undefined2 unaff_DS;
  
  return ((*(int *)0x3a96 + 0x28) * param_1 * param_1) / 0x100 + 1;
}
// = (40 + charisma) / 256

The formulas look a little odd for what they're used for. 0x3a96 is the pointer for charisma, but it's currently a bit hard to follow exactly how it's applied. --45.72.210.104 17:49, 16 December 2023 (MST)

Confusion

Fibonacci

This one is talked about at Talk:Intelligence#Ultima II.--The Ultra-Mind (talk) 13:39, 20 August 2025 (MDT)

I have a feeling that this section won't be quickly rehabilitated, so I've commented out the math.--The Ultra-Mind (talk) 07:42, 26 August 2025 (MDT)

Raising in U1

The text says that raising Charisma is done by visiting the Southern Sign Post. But that's one is linked to Castle Barataria (U1), but that article says that this would result in a Strength bump. So we either have a contraction or some other clarification is needed.--The Ultra-Mind (talk) 13:39, 20 August 2025 (MDT)

As the picture in Southern Sign Post proves, that one indeed raises Charisma. You have to remember that the stat raise happens when visiting the sign post in question, a quest from the king is not required (that one just gives experience and money). The one BIG exception is stength, which IS raised each time you fulfill a king's sign post quest (all the sign post quests do that). Also, the ponds in a king's castle give stat raises for dumping money into them. The stat increase is the number of pence dropped divided by 10, rounded down. I honestly had not known about those facts.--Tribun (talk) 07:19, 21 August 2025 (MDT)

Ok, so to be very clear about this:

1. So the Southern Sign Post raises Charisma by visiting it, but under what conditions? Nothing to do w/the king's quest? So the part about the "respective king" isn't actually relevant?
   1. The conditions question brings me to another question: is this what the "after the first visit by first visiting a different signpost before getting the quest again" talk is about? Does this just mean that the player visits this sign post, and he always gets Charisma bump so long as the last sign post he visited was a different one?
2. And this is the only way to raise Charisma? That one sign post?

--The Ultra-Mind (talk) 10:57, 21 August 2025 (MDT)

Ill present it here:

• The stat-boost (and the items) from the sign posts have nothing to do with the quests to visit them, the quest to visit it is only there to get the strength boost from the king, while the boosts and items from the sign posts can be obtained at any time.
• After you have visited one sign post, you first have to visit a different one and then return to the first one to get another boost from it. You essentially can move back and forth between the sign posts on one continent to get all the rewards off them.
• No king gives the same quest right away again after you solved it, you first have to solve a different king's sign post quest before you can return for a repeat performance and strength boost.
• Yep, that sign post is the only way to raise Charisma, apart from the pond-trick mentioned above (though that one is rather unreliable and costly).

Does that explain it all?--Tribun (talk) 11:29, 21 August 2025 (MDT)

For this article, pretty much. But there are a number of other stat articles that are going to need some edits.

One other thing might be helpful: what else can be said about these kings' ponds? Do they all produce increases? Do certain pools always bump the same stat(s) or did you call them unreliable because the stat(s) they raise are random?--The Ultra-Mind (talk) 12:38, 21 August 2025 (MDT)

It is interesting, concerning the ponds:

• The big ponds in Castle Barataria, Castle of Lord British, Castle of Olympus and theCastle of the White Dragon do the 10% stat increase of pence dropped in, but it indeed is entirely random and thus highly unreliable.
• In the Black Dragon's Castle, Shamino's Castle, Castle of the Lost King and Castle Rondorin only the western part of the big pond does that, while the eastern half actually produces food (300% of pence dropped in).
• There are many more interesting pond effects with all the other ponds found in towns and castles, see this page. Perhaps fodder for the trivia pages of those places?

Interesting stuff, isn't it?--Tribun (talk) 13:37, 21 August 2025 (MDT)

It is pretty interesting. Almost as interesting as the 2nd source of mandrake in U4.

Has any of the material on this site been confirmed? I don't know that one myself, but it looks like the kind of site that can play fast and loose with the facts.--The Ultra-Mind (talk) 13:58, 21 August 2025 (MDT)

It's widespread knowledge. Countless pages give that information and many players confirmed it.--Tribun (talk) 14:09, 21 August 2025 (MDT)