Talk:Killing children

Every aspect of the Ultima games should be recorded here. And he did comment on it in his book, and reviewers did mention it. Need screenshots of everywhere that happened. If there was any in other games, mention it too please. I remember seeing it in 5, 7, and 8. Dream Focus 14:00, 3 June 2012 (PDT)

I don't mean to be a jerk here, but I'm not sure this is enlightening. I understand the need to document "every aspect of the Ultima games" to a useful degree, but does that mean we need to document every appearance of, say, pies, or the color red, or dragons? (Or, to compare to other material in the series that was transgressive or progressive in its day: should we document every instance of a woman in a profession considered nontraditional for the gender in a medieval setting, or every instance of profanity in the dialogue?)

I understand that the room in Ultima V, at least, is notable particularly given its scale and the time of the game's release, but perhaps this is better noted in the trivia section of the main game entries. -RACapowski 15:21, 3 June 2012 (PDT)

No shortage of space or anything, so no reason not to have an article for it. I think it notable to see that he didn't just do it once. Dream Focus 20:40, 3 June 2012 (PDT)

Using the wiki to attempt to convince folks that the Ultima V room isn't controversial because there are similar instances in other Ultima games (this is a fan debate, I take it?) seems like stepping over the line from information into advocacy, which isn't really the purview of a wiki. Yeah, there's no shortage of room on the Codex - but that wouldn't justify my proposed pages for pie/red/etc. tallies, either.

Besides, having a page to tally the number of times you can kill kids in an Ultima game is just gauche. It's just gauche, man! -RACapowski 21:00, 3 June 2012 (PDT)

I wasn't trying to convince people of anything. I just would like to have an article listing all the times you had children rushing to attack you. Its like the category for talking animals, or any number of things already here. It exist to show the information to those who are interested in it. Dream Focus 21:52, 3 June 2012 (PDT)

This article is awkwardly-written at best, and the topic is already covered in Ultima V. I vote unecessary. --polygoncount (Polygon Dragon -==(UDIC)==-) 23:24, 3 June 2012 (PDT)

Does it harm anything by existing here? Anything gained by eliminating it? Dream Focus 06:30, 4 June 2012 (PDT)

Well, besides the above points, the topic is kind of skeevy and fetishized, like enumerating the number of times you can find tentacle monsters in the games or something. It kind of cheapens the place. -RACapowski 08:05, 4 June 2012 (PDT)

I think a problem this wiki has, is we have no way of finally settling a disagreement. No good agreement was ever reached on our previous discussion about what to do about some of the Free Shard and poorly written UO articles, and it looks like no good final agreement is going to be reached here either. This unfortunately just makes a lot of unanswered questions and a confused Codex. Dungy 16:34, 4 June 2012 (PDT)

This could easily fit in the trivia section for the children page. No reason to give it a separate page for so little content. - Iceblade 4 June 2012

Agreed, Iceblade. --polygoncount (Polygon Dragon -==(UDIC)==-) 18:50, 4 June 2012 (PDT)

Yeah, that seems like the most prudent route to me as well. --Terilem 20:24, 4 June 2012 (PDT)

Agreed, we will do that. Dungy 10:17, 5 June 2012 (PDT)