Talk:Eye of Stratos

I think this topic should probably be renamed Eye of Stratos. Here is a quote from the Ultima VIII Clue Book:

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Sometimes, when the pearly covering of Pagan grows thin and looks like sheets of kith silk billowing in a storm, you can dimly glimpse a pale disk. It is called the Eye of Stratos. Cold and still in a turbulent heaven, it peers from above as if trying to see into the dim and shadowed world of Pagan. There is no one left, not even Stratos, who could put the name "sun" to the Eye of Stratos--but long before the new gods came and vanquished Apathas, my father, the sun shone brightly on an island of verdant life. In the space of a day, too long ago for mortal memory, the clouds came and the rays of the sun were warded away. The first to die were the flowering plants, then the animals which fed on them. Grasses and soaring trees disappeared, replaced by moss, fungus and hardy shrubs. In time, the mushrooms and shrubs grew in size, but they do not provide the shelter and good for wildlife that the light-drenched world supported. The people, in their own way, adapted to their new world, but the teeming farms and bustling cities of yesterday are quiet and still. These generations do not find it unusual, nor do they notice that their numbers are decreasing. I find it almost unsettling to think that unless things change, I may not have a world to observe in a few millennia, just a bare dome of rock in a cold, lifeless sea. And then I, too, shall perish. – from Pentology (Ultima VIII Clue Book)

This also calls into question the conclusions on this page. If Stratos and the other Titans were in cohorts with the Guardian to hide the sun and subvert Pagan, how could there be no one left, not even Stratos, who could put the name "sun" to the Eye. Of course, then we are taking the word of Remvatos (The Observer, son of Apathas, and one of the authors of the hint book) instead of the Titans, but I think thats a fair trade. --Browncoat Jayson 19:18, 19 January 2012 (PST)

Magical cloud cover

Hi Bluevibe! I enjoyed your rewrite, this is a vast improvement. The only thing I have a problem with is the implication that the clouds over Pagan are magical - I don't think any implication like that was ever made. It could well be that the source of the clouds is magical in nature, or that they are the byproduct of some sort of spell or enchantment, but the phrasing is a little too speculative for my tastes. What do you think? --Warder Dragon 07:52, 13 November 2012 (PST)

Hmmm... I guess that I just sort of assumed that the cloud wouldn't have existed in perpetuity for so many centuries without some sort of magic in effect... although it occurs to me that it's never explicitly mentioned. I'll see what I can do.--Blu3vib3 23:36, 14 November 2012 (PST)

Honestly, that's my assumption too, but I thought the phrasing was a little too specific for something we know very little about, is all. ;)

--Warder Dragon 01:19, 15 November 2012 (PST)

Maybe Pagan just has a really wonky atmosphere. I mean, there must be some explanation other than "magic" for Venus' cloud cover. Dungy 18:41, 18 November 2012 (PST)