Ultima Codex talk:Research tips and resources

Help formatting
That abomination that is the tables which list all the places where transcripts are to be found was the best I could do for now. I thought maybe putting them in a big table, but this kind of formatting isn't really my thing. So I thought I'd leave the other sections mostly blank until someone came up w/a better paradigm.

I thought it best that resources be listed by game, since when editors are researching stuff, they don't care what other resources a site has, they just want the material for that one game. That's why "Notable Ultima" repeats several times. AngusM 04:46, August 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * This article is a very good idea, AngusM. I tweaked the formatting just a little to make it look better, though I'll see if I come with a better solution.--Sega381 13:09, August 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Your idea wasn't so bad itself. That formatting is just good enough to apply to the other sections. If no one comes up w/anything better, then that's what I'll do. AngusM 00:26, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I think this has taken long enough. I'm going to use Sega's format, assuming that something better is not going to come along. I might need some help w/the content, though. AngusM 04:16, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

SI Usecode
Just a note on the dialogue files table: SI's Usecode path should be exactly the same as U7's. I tried to add this in by copy-and-pasting but it messed up the U4 box even when I tried to undo the revision. Someone more knowledgeable in these formatting issues might want to handle the edit. --Terilem 03:21, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, that's a bug, probably in the RTE. That line, which is in a table cell that begins with a bullet, then has a space, and then an asterisk. Well, it seems that the asterisk in the source that makes the bullet disappears, I suspect, by the RTE. As you noticed, even an undo doesn't undo the effects of the bug. I've already submitted a bug report to the Wikia boys. AngusM 03:38, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ahh okay, thanks for clearing that up. --Terilem 03:54, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Just to wrap this up, this is the message I got back from the Wikia powers that be: I'm not sure this will get fixed very fast, as it seems to be not so much a bug, as an overzealous parser, trying to read wiki text into HTML. To protect the * from being counted as wiki text, and turned into a bullet, wrap it in tags, like this: http://ultima.wikia.com/index.php? title=Editable_Codex:Research_tips_and_resources&diff=45191&oldid=45180 It will be ignored, and stay as is. I have a hard time understanding the difference between this and a bug. If a computer program is overanything, I'd think it would always be a bug. In any case, this is a good tip for such future problems. AngusM 19:17, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Criterion for naming files
I should point out that starting with U4 (or was it 5?) I decided which files had text in them by going through all of them with a hex editor, and looking for it. At least, so far I've done up to part way through U6. I might not have the patience to go through the later games. AngusM 03:38, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

SE Transcripts
Just pointing out that there are no transcripts for Savage Empire. Only MD and UVI. Artic Blaze Dragon 11:20, 3 November 2010 (PDT)

Need U2 transcript
It seems that Notable Ultima's transcripts for U1 and U2 are incomplete, although there's a slight chance that this is because what they have there are remakes. In any case, neither make reference to Gwenno by that name or any of her other names (that is, a case insensitive search for "gw" in those transcripts turns up nothing) and we don't have an alternative transcript for II. The Ultra-Mind (talk) 19:25, 24 January 2014 (UTC)