Talk:Brothel

I see many glaring issues with this article, so I'll just jump right into it:


 * Is its existence justified? I find it superfluous and misleading. We have general "overview" articles for things like Armouries and Apothecaries, I assume, because there are many of them encountered throughout the series. As far as I know, there is exactly one establishment in the entire saga that can clearly be classified as a brothel: the Baths in U7 (as an aside, it has never been called the House of Baths, so why does that name keep reappearing on the wiki?). Wanda and Andreas in U6 did not operate out of a brothel; one could argue that Jade technically did in U9, but I personally find that tenuous given she was operating alone out of a small, single room dwelling. In light of these shortcomings, the article essentially paraphrases what is better covered in the Baths' own page, and lacks focus for the rest, leaping from prostitution as a profession, to an actual brothel and then, bizarrely, to the interpersonal relations of characters not even involved in prostitution.


 * Elaborating on that note, I find the final section's attempt to relate the activities of certain Serpent Islanders with prostitution extraneous and vaguely slut-shaming. I don't see how Brendann, Lucilla, or Frigidazzi's desire to bed the Avatar affects the existence of the profession, or lack thereof, in any way. Think what you will about the infidelities of the various mages in Moonshade, but they are similarly irrelevant.


 * The tone of the article is oozing with moral judgement from the opening paragraph. When the author's opinion of the subject at hand is so readily discernible, this is a problem. The reader should not feel like they are being lectured from any particular point of view.


 * The assumption is made that the Baths were destroyed in the Great Cataclysm, when in fact we have no idea what happened. They just as easily could have been shut down with the disbandment of the Fellowship.

--Terilem (talk) 10:40, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The illustration appears to be a hastily edited version of the Armoury sign from the Book of Lore, and in my opinion, has no place purporting to originate from official material. It also reinforces the false notion that brothels are somehow widespread establishments in the Ultima series.