User talk:Dungy

Welcome
Hi, welcome to Editable Codex! Thanks for your edit to the List of interviews done by Richard Garriott page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Uberfuzzy (Talk) 17:16, 2009 December 5

Interviews
Thanks for the interview links! But I fear the Softline link is busted and links to the guardian interview. Do you still have the link to it? I'd love to be able to read it. Thanks. -Fenyx4 18:23, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed that. Sorry! Dungy 18:54, December 5, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks! -Fenyx4 19:06, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Ultima VI Characters
Seeing that you write about Ultima VI characters, you don't have to upload the portraits, we already have them all ready here: http://ultima.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Ultima_VI_Portraits

Also I took the freedom to heavily adit the articles, as they were incomplete and lacking in style.--Tribun 17:03, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

How would you like me to change the style? I've been trying to keep them simple and matter of fact. I see you prefer using past-tense. Is there any other suggestions you would make? I didn't see those pictures there earlier. I'll start using them. Dungy 17:27, February 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * Just look at the changes I made, the text should be better readable now, with much extra information filled in. So try to get all the information, before writing. I also corrected the tense problem so that it now is identical to the other character articles. Present tense is for the short introduction, and everything that "happened" in the game is written in the past. --Tribun 17:32, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

I personally find referring to the Avatar as he/she as terrible style, but I guess that has been decided upon by the wikia, so I can't rock the boat. Dungy 17:34, February 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * Since the Avatar can be male or female, this is the only way that works.--Tribun 17:38, February 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know. I've had a number of teachers tell me they despise he/she since it sounds like lawyer speak, and would prefer the use of 'he' when the gender is unspecified. I tend to agree with them, but hey, I won't rock the boat.
 * OK, I tried making a new page with the advice you suggested. Comments? Recommendations? Dungy 20:12, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

I strongly recommend NOT using he/she simply because it looks so awful. Just try to avoid using gender at all - there are plenty of ways to avoid using he or him when mentioning the Avatar, especially if it's just a simple tangential mention. --Warder Dragon 22:30, February 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed, this is what I think is the best solution. It's not difficult to completely circumvent the issue by structuring sentences the right way, it just takes a little more creativity. Better yet, it doesn't contradict any customs that might be in place at a given time. --Terilem 00:19, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Already big improvement. I made some adjustments to the Gwenneth article, but not as much as the other ones needed. You only need to go a little more into detail. If things are missing, I'll add them.--Tribun 21:10, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Wiki Admin
Forum:Administrator - Just wanted to bring your attention to this in case it goes scrolling off the recent changes. It'd be nice to have everyone's input. Fenyx4 14:32, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

The Character Portraits
I noticed that the character portraits for Ultima VII that you upload are somewhat blurry and have pixelation issues. Maybe you should re-upload them as GIF-files to eliminate the pixelation (look how clean my uploads are).--Tribun 10:24, March 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * Not a bad idea. What software are you using? I'm not really good at image editting, and that was about the best I could do. When I tried saving as .gif, I always lost even more graphic quality. (Dungy 14:42, March 29, 2010 (UTC))

I actually make snapshots of the portrait in Exult, copy it into my paint program (which is over 7 years old), cut out the rectangle with the portrait, remove the surrounding background by making it white and then export it as a GIF-file (important is the export, not just a "save as"). Does that help? --Tribun 14:35, March 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * What scalers are you using? I've been using a simple 2x scale. The original graphics were pretty grainy. The difference in our portraits may stem from that. If you're using HQ2X (forget the exact name), then that smooths out a lot of corners that were present in the original photos. (Dungy 14:42, March 29, 2010 (UTC))


 * I use Super2xSal. --Tribun 14:48, March 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * Using Exult Studio you can export the portraits directly from the game files in png format. I exported Rutherford and increased the size (using GIMP) and uploaded it for you guys to see; Rutherford.png. If the quality is good enough and it would save you guys time I could do this for all the portraits and put them all up as a zip file somewhere for you guys to pull from. -- Fenyx4 16:00, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm... do we want nicer looking scaled images, or images more truthful to the original? Your approach would definately save us time and effort. (Dungy 22:22, March 29, 2010 (UTC))

Ansikart and Anmanivas
I <3 you Dungy. I've been meaning to change that forever but hadn't been to summon the willpower to start up a new U7 game to check it out and be sure you had the option to "slaughter them like lambs". :) -- Fenyx4 03:36, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Your duplicate pictures
I noticed that yopu posted duplicate pictures from the pictures in the Book of Mystic Wisdom. Why did you do this, when you have the option of simply using the already existing pictures (which are exactly the same content)?--Tribun 23:41, May 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry about that. I looked, but couldn't find 'View' under either "Peer" or "View', so I didn't know what name to search for. What is the correct image name for the two files I uploaded, so I can delete my versions? There are so many images, that it can be troublesome finding the one you're looking for. (Dungy 23:46, May 16, 2010 (UTC))

Here a list of duplicate pictures, and where the original picture is found:

Blink > Recall

Peer > Wizard Eye

Quickness > Mass Might

Repel Undead > Smite Undead

Maybe some more, I have to look. --Tribun 23:52, May 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Fixed all 4 of them and set the articles for deletion. (Dungy 00:04, May 17, 2010 (UTC))

Japanese Ultima stuff
Over the next few days I'll be posting a lot of my Japanese Ultima stuff, and some North American stuff too. If you see something that interests you, and you want more detailed scans, or manual scans, or anything of the sort, just let me know. (Dungy 16:10, August 21, 2010 (UTC))

Ultima VII Cluebooks?
I notice that you post pictures and stuff from the Ultima VII cluebooks. Try as hard as I want, I never managed to find them onlines as pdf-files. Do you actually do have them in paper form? I really envy you if you have, since that the last, BIG gap that I'm unable to close and I'm unable to systematically use the pictures in them. --Tribun 01:59, August 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I have all the Ultima cluebooks except Ultima III and Martian Dreams in paper form. I really want to scan the whole books and put together a PDF file of the hintbooks, since I know it's not available ANYWHERE, but especially my Balancing the Scales is still is really good condition, and I'd destroy the backbone scanning it. Dungy 02:02, August 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I also hate destroying a good book. So hopefully you can at least give us access to the illustrations (maybe you can upload them first and then we can decide what to use them for) and stuff that we were unable to cover. Oh, and a scan of the cover would be nice, as the current covers are rather poor (bad quality).--Tribun 02:07, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll do my best. I'll post as many good pictures as I can without causing too much damage. That's as man as I can get this evening, more to come. Half the pictures are right on the spine, and try as I might, it's darn near impossible to scan them properly. Dungy 02:14, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Good work! I found a use for all of them and updated the cover art for the SI cluebook (I corrected the gamma and color balance first).--Tribun 11:43, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Ultima V: Lazarus Portraits
Over the next little while I'm going to start uploading portraits for all of Ultima V: Lazarus. I've been autocropping them, but making sure to keep the height to 192 pixels. I've been leaving a black background because not all of the portraits have nice circles around the characters, so this way is more consistent. If everyone is happy with that, over the next little while I'll slowly be uploading photos. Dungy 18:48, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hiya, I noticed you adding the Lazarus template to everybody. Would you like FenyxBot to do that? Then we'd only have to come back and fill in missing data and/or change data that is different from the original Ultima 5. -- Fenyx4 12:54, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * I would LOVE to have Fenyxbot do that! Dungy 12:56, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * What I'm going to do, I'll create new pages for the merchant NPCs that were missed, and I'll be adding original U5 photos to all the NPCs that don't have those either. When Fenyxbot adds the Lazarus infobox, is it possible to have that one first, since they really do make nicer main pictures that the boring U5 screenshots. Dungy 21:30, September 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yup, I noticed you were putting the Lazarus ones first so I was doing the same. Sadly I was halfway done when my computer blue screened taking the regex I was making with it. *head -> desk* Hopefully I can get back to it today. -- Fenyx4 13:02, October 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ambrose, Fenelon, and Kenneth don't appear to have a Lazarus pictures. Are they missing or do they not appear in Lazarus? (P.S. You passed me in edits! :) ) -- Fenyx4 19:07, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Kenneth is listed as SirKenneth, Ambrose as SirAmbrose, and Fenelon as well... he isn't there. He isn't on the Hawk's page either, which means he must have forgotten to post that image onto his website. *sigh* Anyone have Lazarus installed with a savegame in Minoc? I need someone to go hunting for Fenelon. Dungy 19:16, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Thank You
You are like my grammatical fairy godmother. Blu3vib3 03:51, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Ultima IX NPCs
Thanks that you took on the masochistic job of filling in all the Ultima IX NPCs. I gave up on it, since most of them are hollow one-liners with no life of their own. I wanted to add this because of you comment that there are many people in Britain in IX. Want to add, that this only seems to be, as most are of the one-line type. That was one of the things that really soured the game for me.

Still, good work and you've more endurance in this regard, than me.--Tribun 07:52, 1 December 2010 (PST)


 * I can give you some help with some of the remaining NPCs:
 * Xarnthal in Destard. Aside from the story told by others, you can find him guarding one of the shells. He's the giant zombie, and the tomb is his.
 * Molly of Dawn. Thanks to a bug you'll propably never find her. According to hintbook, she hasn't much to say anyway, just repeating what others in Destard say about the destruction of Dawn.
 * Perli the poarrot. He talks to the Avatar when looting the chest with Katie's letter in it (it's on the ship). His dialogue is:
 * Perli: "Squawk! The pirates are hoarding Serpentwyne! Squawk!"
 * Avatar: "What?"
 * Perli: "I didn't say anything! Squawk!"
 * Warden Bob in Wrong doesn't exist, you only find his book entries.
 * I hope this helps to fill the gaps.--Tribun 23:40, 4 December 2010 (PST)
 * Weird, I did that quest again and I explored all through that area and I couldn't find Perli. I got the letter and explored every inch of that ship. Another bug? Dungy 09:40, 5 December 2010 (PST)


 * Most likely, considering how bug-infested that game is.--Tribun 10:01, 5 December 2010 (PST)


 * Yup, was a bug. Started a new game and flew to Bucc's Den, and wouldn't you know it it works.  Dungy 14:00, 5 December 2010 (PST)

Ultima IX pictures
Uhm, a question. Why are your Ultima IX screenshots so strangely squashed together? They should have a format of 640x480, but instead have 640x360. Everything is distored by this. Is something wrong with your picture capturing software?--Tribun 13:27, 2 December 2010 (PST)
 * It's my laptop. Try as I might, I can not get Ultima IX to display 640x480 with its graphics card.  Not super, but I couldn't find any solution. Dungy 13:58, 2 December 2010 (PST)
 * Ok, that explains it. Always anoying when the technology doesn't do as it should.--Tribun 16:53, 4 December 2010 (PST)

Oh, since I don't want to open a new section. You asked me where I got the pictures of weapons and armour of Ultima IX, if I remember right. Well, surprisingly, these are scans right out of the german cluebook. I treated them with a paint program, to look more presentable and sharper.--Tribun 17:53, 30 December 2010 (PST)
 * Ahh... all the images in the English version are black and white. Dungy 18:52, 30 December 2010 (PST)
 * Really? Strange, same price (worth-wise) but all in color. Well, In exchange, the german cluebook was missing these companion-stories.--Tribun 06:06, 31 December 2010 (PST)

About the shops
Dungy, would you like me to make all the screenshots for the Ultima VII shops? It would save you the trouble. I could also add ones for Ultima VIII if you want.--Tribun 18:29, 10 December 2010 (PST)
 * Ultima VII to start. There's only like 4 shops in Ultima VIII, and I think they can be covered by the NPC screenshots I took awhile back. Dungy 18:40, 10 December 2010 (PST)
 * Actually, I've been thinking. I think for Ultima VII, I'll mostly fill in the shop information for the individual NPC, like I did for Ultima IX.  I'm not sure how many images I'll actually need.   Maybe hold up on that job for now, until I make a decision on how I'll proceed.  Even for Ultima VI, I don't think I'll take a picture of the shop for most places, probably only inns, taverns, and blacksmiths which actually have names. Dungy 19:22, 10 December 2010 (PST)
 * Considering this, I think I'll alter my offer, and only include named shops. That would be all taverns, the Wayfarer Inn (Can the House of Baths also be considered a shop as a brothel?) and propably some larger shops. How will you handle that on the city pages? Create links that are just dressed-up links to the NPC articles?--Tribun 19:07, 10 December 2010 (PST)
 * Hmm... Well, House of Baths is already taken care of, but named taverns and inns might be a start. They may well deserve their own articles.  Trainers, healers, and the dozens of little craftsmen in Britain who all sell things.  For them I plan on adding their pricelists to their pages as many of them only sell 2 or 3 items.  I suppose though, there's really no reason why we can't add a second image showing them at work.  More images is better, right? I guess we'll see what it looks like as we proceed. Dungy 19:22, 10 December 2010 (PST)

Ok, tomorrow (European time) I'll make images of the taverns and the inn. Shops that already have pages and images are Iolo's Bows, the Blue Boar Tavern (The Inn in SI too), the Apple Orchard (yes, true), the Flour Mill in Paws, the Greenhouse (want to buy flowers?) and the House of Baths. Those you just need to edit.--Tribun 19:29, 10 December 2010 (PST)


 * Done, Wayfarer's Inn and all tavern pictures now online. Note that the tavern pictures of Moonglow and Cove are found on the town pages.--Tribun 09:27, 11 December 2010 (PST)

Dungy, the information what spells you can buy looks rather out of place on the character sites (far too long). Can't you combine that all in one big table that shows where you can buy which spell for how much, and put that on a seperate article and link it? It would this much more useful, especially for quick overview.--Tribun 09:49, 12 December 2010 (PST)
 * Agreed, I'll see what I can do. I've got it all written out now, so it shouldn't take me too long. Dungy 09:53, 12 December 2010 (PST)

Added the missing picture of the Terfin tavern. Also note that the Vesper tavern is seperated in two brnches (gargoyle and human), but share the same name

The only seperate shop article for Ultima VIII should be the Shattered Skull tavern (already set the link on the character pages), everything else is single characters:
 * Korik for weapons and armour.
 * Darion for leather armour and training.
 * Rhian for clothing and jewels.
 * Mythran for Thaumaturgy, as well as several sorcerer and necromancy reagents (seperate lists).

I'm doing the pictures for Serpent Isle shops right now. Since the Inn of the Sleeping Bull is one big shop, I think this one just needs a price list.--Tribun 07:15, 20 December 2010 (PST)
 * Thanks for helping me with this! Dungy 12:56, 20 December 2010 (PST)


 * Before I forget it, can you please also add the exchange fee for the shops and/or NPCs on Serpent Isle that do exchange money (it's a percentage)?--Tribun 08:52, 22 December 2010 (PST)
 * Hmm... I think you already took care of that. Thanks for helping me out with all the shops.  This has been a big job. Dungy 14:43, 22 December 2010 (PST)

Since you are adding SI shops now, I added Winter Gear to the equipment. I leave it to you to decide how to integrate it with the various fur articles in the shop pages.--Tribun 18:08, 22 December 2010 (PST)
 * Done. Good work! Dungy 18:20, 22 December 2010 (PST)


 * I did the Ultima VIII shops (easy, since there are only five) and put them into a new category. Now you only have to check them and indert the references (something I'm absolutely unable to do).--Tribun 11:16, 23 December 2010 (PST)

Adminhood
Wanted to point you towards Forum:Admin_and_Bureaucrat_Policies. -- Fenyx4 08:32, 21 December 2010 (PST)


 * Maybe you can use your adminhood to eredicate the "About Editable Codex" that greets me when scrolling all the way to the bottom.--Tribun 08:53, 2 January 2011 (PST)
 * Any idea what the name of the bottom bar is? I have little idea how to do these thing.  Dungy 08:55, 2 January 2011 (PST)


 * Looking into the source, I didn't get much. seems to be where it starts. --Tribun 09:01, 2 January 2011 (PST)

Maps for U5
I saw :
 * 1) Maps for all towns in Ultima V

in your user page.

I just modified my engine to retrieve them all without the Npcs or the avatar, did the same for britannia and underworld. I put them in a zip but I do you have a place you want them in ?

However, I don't have the names of the cities though, we'll have to get those ourselves...

As a teaser: http://codex.ultimaaiera.com/images/d/d5/Ultima_5_-_Britannia_overview.png ;-) --Fearyourself 11:14, 18 January 2011 (PST)
 * The map looks cool, but we need to find some way of making use of it on the codex. As for maps, well, they'd be nice to have, but we've never decided on the best way of dealing with them.  Some people think they deserve to be on city pages, others do not, and the conversation stalled.  Regardless, if you could upload maps of the cities and castles, and what not, and categorize them as Category:Location_Maps_-_Ultima_V, that'd be super! Dungy 14:58, 18 January 2011 (PST)
 * Do you want me to replace the ones that are already on the page http://codex.ultimaaiera.com/wiki/Category:Location_Maps_-_Ultima_V ? Or just upload my version of them? --Fearyourself 17:57, 18 January 2011 (PST)
 * Replace them. Mine are crap.  Yours are better.  Dungy 18:21, 18 January 2011 (PST)
 * Ok, I took care of the ones from the CASTLE.DAT, and I uploaded the Ultima 4 world maps (normal and VGA), though media wiki doesn't like making thumbnails for them. However, mine don't have the Npcs, I think it's better you tell me. I also now have all the maps of the U4 cities, both VGA and normal under the same format. Does it show that I've been playing with my engine ;-)
 * We already have pretty good maps of all the Ultima IV cities. I know they have NPCs, but i think they look OK.  Your maps of Britannia are quite interesting.  I think replacing the rest of my poorly done Ultima V maps would be sufficient.  Dungy 14:26, 19 January 2011 (PST)
 * I'd especially love to see Ultima V maps of Serpent's Hold, Empath Abbey, and the Lyceaum!
 * Done ;-) fearyourself

Your To Do-List
You can mark off The Lore Quotes for Britannian magic spells. I put them all in.--Tribun 16:01, 6 February 2011 (PST)

Some help with spells please
I created a new infobox for spells and tested it with Circle 1 spells. How does it look? Also, I need help, since I was unable to get the picture in the infbox to center in the middle, directly under the title. Can you help modifying the infbox so that it does?--Tribun 12:36, 7 February 2011 (PST)


 * Thanks. All the spells are now infoboxed. I can also add, that all possible pictures have been added. There simply are spells where a picture would be useless, as there is nothing to see. Feel free to add text (as you have that on your list).--Tribun 09:14, 8 February 2011 (PST)

Infobox Trouble
When you edited the infobox for Ultima V NPCs, there must've been a little error in your editing, since collapsing it, there is a strnage, empty space beneath it, before the next line. Look at the article Chuckles for an example. I have no idea how to program these things, so can you please look into it. It looks unpleasing to the eye.--Tribun 13:43, 12 February 2011 (PST)
 * Thanks for pointing that out Tribun. All fixed up.  Dungy 16:33, 12 February 2011 (PST)

Ultima II NPCs
I have such a soft-spot for the absurdity of Ultima II, thanks so much for tackling these guys with the tongue-in-cheek-ness they deserve. :)--Blu3vib3 14:16, 26 February 2011 (PST)

Spell article's name poll
Hey there, I think you may want to contribute to the Forum:POLL: Spell article's merging policy. Thanks!--Sega381 17:02, 6 March 2011 (PST)

Ultima 5 internal page
I seem to have an issue with the images on that page, I wanted to put the combat pics and all the pics seem to have an issue. I don't know if it's me but if it is, I apologize --fearyourself 4:30, 8 March 2011
 * The issue is how you're trying to link to the images. don't use "img src" to do it. Just upload the images here and link to them directly like you always have.  Do you want to fix your current page, or do you want to revert to February 20th when things weren't broken and try again? Dungy 13:47, 8 March 2011 (PST)
 * Yeah, if you can revert it, I'll fix back what was added (the combat maps for one thing). I must have messed up on one of the edits but I don't know how exactly. Sorry about that. And I just saw your message about the other maps (Serpent's Hold, Empath Abbey, and the Lyceaum)
 * I reverted the whole thing. Feel free to try again.  Any questions, just ask.  Dungy 14:31, 8 March 2011 (PST)
 * Ok, I don't know what I did wrong but anyway it's fine now. I did another little mistake : I thought the system would automatically transform my bmp into png but it didn't. So I reupdated each picture to give the png version of it but the history remembers the bmp versions. If you go to http://codex.ultimaaiera.com/wiki/Category:Location_Maps_-_Ultima_V, you can zoom through the pictures and remove that huge bmp one which should be the one in the middle. I finished updating/uploading the combat maps and every city/keep/castle.
 * I'll do that. Looks great!  Great work! Dungy 15:47, 9 March 2011 (PST)
 * Ok, I've just uncoded all the dungeon rooms, there are more than a 100 of them, do you want them also somewhere (perhaps a new category though) or not? You tell me ;-) fearyourself
 * Hi! Hope no one minds me joining in to conversation but I've been putting U4 dungeon rooms in Category:Dungeon_Room_Files. Considering the quantities involved perhaps we should do some subcategories though... -- Fenyx4 12:50, 10 March 2011 (PST)

Ultima IV Location Maps
I noticed your upload of the illustrations form the Ultima IV cluebook. I honestly have no idea what we should do with them. They are pretty useless as maps (the color tile maps are far superior) and I don't know where we could put them as illustrations.

Btw., I uploaded all unique Underworld spells.--Tribun 13:11, 9 April 2011 (PDT)